Data Protection Breakfast Club

Stay on top of the latest and greatest about data protection and privacy with hosts Andy Dale, Counsel at Alyce and Pedro Pavón, Privacy, Ads, and Data Policy at Facebook, we will meet up with our friends (revenge of the privacy nerds) in the data protection ecosystem to talk 80s, deep dive and ramble along on all things data privacy.

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Featured: Season 2 Episode 1

Super Friends

Justin has lots of superpowers. Yes, he started a privacy focused tech company and is helping it grow rapidly. And yes, he was a litigator and corporate lawyer at a large DC firm. But, the most critical of his super powers is his ability to create a circle of friends, colleagues and people who just wanna talk shop and learn from each other.
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Season 1
Season 2
Season 3

Episode 1

32 min

The Breakfast Club

“You see us as you want to see us in the simplest terms, in the most convenient definitions.” In this pilot episode, Andy Dale, General Council at Alyce and Pedro Pavón, Director and Senior Corporate Counsel at Salesforceshare their passion for being personal and how they are both raising the bar for the data protection industry to keep personal data well … personal.

Episode 2

33 min

Summer Rental

"Come on thru. I'm Joe Public, welcome to my beach." Julia Shullman, General Counsel & Chief Privacy Officer at TripleLift, populates her social media with images of joy in beach towns around NY. What better movie to reflect her life balance than Summer Rental a John Candy classic. Julia is one of the most technical GCs we have come across and we will discuss her approach as a startup lawyer, CPO and business advisor.

Episode 3

36 min

Ferris Bueller's Day Off

“The question isn’t what are we going to do, it’s what aren’t we going to do”? This is very relevant for the story of Jules Polonetsky, CEO Future of Privacy Forum and his journey from real estate law, to politics, to AdTech and now to running what may be the foremost data privacy thinktank in the world.  He’s done it all and rarely takes a day “off.”

Episode 4

32 min

Blade Runner

“I’m not in the business, I am the business” With the dystopian backdrop of Bladerunner, our guest is Professor Eric Goldman, an outspoken critic of the CCPA and CPRA.  We go deep with Eric on the CCPA process, CPRA development and why these laws may not improve consumer privacy.

Episode 5

32 min

Labyrinth

“Well, if that's the way it is done, then that's the way you must do it"

Practice in advertising issues in the US can often feel like wandering a maze of regulatory rules, enforcement actions and nebulous provisions. Luckily Alysa Hutnik who leads privacy and information security at Kelley, Drye & Warren is masterful at weaving through and finding practical solutions for companies big and small.

Episode 6

32 min

Footloose

"Hey, hey! What's this I see? I thought this was a party. LET'S DANCE"

Vice President, Deputy General Counsel, Product & Privacy at Twitter, Stephanie King, talks about Twitter’s principled belief in free expression. Stephanie believes in expression deeply and it has guided her on her career path and in her personal life.

Episode 7

32 min

The Goonies

“Goonies never say die.” Jurgen Van Staden has had a winding, twisting adventure, like saga of the Goonies. The Goonies is the theme here because the movie represents friendship, loyalty, risk-taking, and a rag-tag team, all themes of Jurgen’s work and life.

Episode 8

32 min

Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back

“Would it helped if I got out and pushed?” – Leia Organa

Our guest is Carl Gottlieb the “GDPR Guy”. Regulators are strapped for cash, but need to be thoughtful about regulatory enforcement. Big platforms have infrastructure and money to resist. Often different parties wonder…”would it help if I got out and pushed”?

Episode 9

32 min

The Three Amigos

Our guest is Vivek Narayanadas. These three Data Privacy and Culinary Amigos talk defending the data subject rights of the villagers of Santa Poco from the evil El Guapo (also known as the CCPA).

Episode 10

32 min

Wall Street

"The most valuable commodity I know of is information." Andy and Pedro are joined by Evan Bienstock and Jennifer Stanley. The 1987 movie Wall Street romanticizes deal-making. In reality, Tech companies, financing deals, M&A, IPO are incredibly unromantic. They are often just plain and simple hard work - especially where there are complex data issues at play.

Episode 1

32 min

Here I Go Again

"Here I go again" Andy and Pedro talk to Mark Kahn, GC at Segment, known for jumping into complex tech companies again and again - and producing exit worthy companies like WhatsApp and now Segment. He was a pivotal contributor to the legal team at Yahoo and other companies along the way.

Episode 2

53:46

Don't Stop Believing

"Don't Stop Believing" Noga Rosenthal has been one of the lawyers at the center of the advertising technology industry’s self-regulation movement for over 10 years. A privacy expert, data enthusiast, thoughtful lawyer, Noga is at the top of her game.

Episode 3

55:41

I Wear My Sun Glasses At Night

"I Wear My Sun Glasses At Night"

Trevor has become one of a few leading voices in the space and does so with razor sharp insight across all vectors of privacy from health to finance, adtech to AI/ML. Being a privacy leader/lawyer can feel like wearing sunglasses at night.

Episode 4

41:15

I Ain’t No Joke

Sachin Kothari is privacy royalty. He is an ad tech veteran but his experience includes many other areas within privacy. He has quietly built one of the best resumes in privacy and he definitely ain’t no joke.

Episode 5

53:30

Under Pressure

Time after time, Danielle Sheer has undertaken complex, mountainous challenges under intense pressure and come out the other side successfully. Her career defining moment may have been helping Carbonite IPO under massive pressure and scrutiny.

Episode 6

46:31

Look Away

Do litigators make good in-house lawyers and can they learn data and privacy? Derek Zolner will discuss the shift from litigation to commercial legal work and on-house counseling. “Look Away” is how many people also feel about AdTech, too.

Episode 7

35:04

I've Had The Time Of My Life

Ashley Slavik made her start in the early days of the GDPR and manages a lot of different aspects of data privacy and globally - a huge challenge. But the key is to face each new obstacle with the right attitude - remember, data is everywhere and privacy can be the time of your life.

Episode 8

52:24

Fight The Power

PE’s anthem Fight the Power is more of a personal descriptor for our friend Anjali Dahiya. She is a fighter in all the best ways we need lawyers to be fighting for people. Her career path has now taken her to a place where she can do a lot of good - Facebook Ad Policy.

Episode 9

42:44

Space Oddity

When you ask Shane Jacobs what his career goals are, he doesn’t say the normal things we hear so often. Data has played an increasingly important role in space suit development. Space Oddity is from 1969, but its such a good song we have to cheat here.

Episode 10

49:29

Forever Young

“Forever Young” has become an American anthem emblematic of the youthful vigorous spirit of the country. There is no more vigorous spirit in the privacy world than Heather Federman. She is a force of nature and is working on some of the most complex issues in data privacy.  

Episode 11

50:44

Every Breath You Take

Judy Estes has held a variety of roles in the legal leadership at Mastercard. She is a leader of teams with a practical business-minded approach. But, what really sets her apart is the ability to instantly see the bigger picture - her eye is always on the larger, more decisive business goals. She loves the song “Every Breath You Take”, it feels relevant around how she balances a busy family life with the rigor of leadership at Mastercard.

Episode 12

37:54

Video Killed the Radio Star

Gary Kibel is AdTech old school. He’s been in the privacy game for decades and has constantly stayed on top of changing tech, challenging regulation and new laws. He does it all with a sense of humor, kindness and warmth that all of this friends and colleagues appreciate. Video Killed the Radio Star is a classic 80s pop song that is a good mirror for Gary’s ability to adjust with changing tech and shifting norms.

Episode 1

51:38

Super Friends

Justin has lots of superpowers. Yes, he started a privacy focused tech company and is helping it grow rapidly. And yes, he was a litigator and corporate lawyer at a large DC firm. But, the most critical of his super powers is his ability to create a circle of friends, colleagues and people who just wanna talk shop and learn from each other.

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